The Art of Product

Ben and Derrick chat weekly about building software companies.

About the show

The Art of Product is a podcast chronicling the journeys of two entrepreneurs building software companies. Hosted by Ben Orenstein and Derrick Reimer.

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  • 198: Leaving Room To React

    January 26th, 2022  |  33 mins 5 secs

    Derrick and Ben catch up about what's going on at Tuple and SavvyCal. Derrick had a fun customer experience on Twitter last week. Ben is still in hiring mode.

  • 197: Growth Mindset

    January 12th, 2022  |  32 mins 51 secs

    Derrick & Ben catch up after a few weeks away for the holidays. Ben is still in hiring mode. He's considering ways to do more teaching (something he used to do a lot when he was a programmer by trade). Derrick is planning to be more intentional in fostering a growth mindset this year in business and life.

  • 196: The Hedonic Treadmill

    December 22nd, 2021  |  35 mins 5 secs

    Ben & Derrick chat about doing what you love versus doing what the business needs.

  • 195: Metric Obsession

    December 8th, 2021  |  35 mins 47 secs

    Ben and Derrick catch up after a holiday break. Ben chats about his recent design hire and Stephen's promotion to Chief of Staff at Tuple. Derrick ran a successful Black Friday promo for SavvyCal and is hard at work on the Stripe integration.

  • 194: The Future of AoP

    December 1st, 2021  |  37 mins

    Ben and Derrick plan for the future of the podcast.

  • 193: Feeling Ambitious

    November 17th, 2021  |  35 mins 43 secs

    Ben and Derrick chat about their ambitions for building their companies and planning for the new year.

  • 192: This Is Not A Fire Drill

    November 10th, 2021  |  44 mins 49 secs

    Ben tells the story about a recent Tuple incident in production. The guys discuss how they're putting planning into action after last week's chat with Adam about Shape Up. Derrick gives an update about growth efforts for SavvyCal.

  • 191: Shaping Up with Adam Wathan

    November 3rd, 2021  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Ben and Derrick talk to Adam about how to effectively plan and organize work.

  • 190: Unpacking Stripe, Continued

    October 20th, 2021  |  51 mins 14 secs

    Penelope Phippen is back on the show to continue the conversation from Episode 180 about how Stripe does with it does.

  • 189: Back In The Saddle

    October 13th, 2021  |  37 mins 29 secs

    Ben is back home from the Vineyard and Derrick is back to 100%. Tuple is hiring a Product Designer and considering adding a bit more structure to their product planning process. Derrick recently shipped a new marketing site update

  • 188: Priorities, Priorities

    October 6th, 2021  |  38 mins 27 secs

    Ben and Derrick strategize about how to allocate time and energy and staying in tune with customers.

  • 187: Wait, There Are How Many Time Zones?!

    September 22nd, 2021  |  41 mins 44 secs

    Ben and the team are preparing to officially designate Tuple 1.0! Derrick is working on embedding SavvyCal more deeply in customers' workflows and is digging more moats around time zone handling.

  • 186: Investing In The Core

    September 15th, 2021  |  36 mins 44 secs

    Ben is back on Martha's Vineyard enjoying some partial days off. The Tuple team just shipped a major overhaul of the app internals with better performance and less CPU usage. Derrick has been doing a bit of housekeeping & maintenance work to make the core SavvyCal offering even smoother.

  • 185: Incremental Improvements

    September 1st, 2021  |  25 mins 51 secs

    Ben is hanging out with two new team members in the office this week. The Tuple team is preparing to ship some big performance upgrades. Derrick launched the SavvyCal iCloud integration on Product Hunt

  • 184: Delete Your Backlog?

    August 25th, 2021  |  47 mins 28 secs

    Ben and Derrick have been recharging with some vacation time the last few weeks. Ben is excited to onboard his new sales hire. Derrick shipped a Fastmail calendar integration and released a Zapier integration. The guys discuss the merits of having and tending to a backlog.

    Derrick could use your help getting to 50 active Zapier integrations!

  • 183: Soaking In Nature

    August 11th, 2021  |  40 mins 24 secs

    Ben is excited to onboard a new team member to help with sales and customer success. Derrick shipped iCloud integration for SavvyCal and is continuing the shipping spree. Both have recently had the opportunity to spend some time in nature on lakes and rivers.